Sean David Morton talks at length with his friend mysterious Pleiadian contactee Adrian (prounouced
Ah-dre-ain) in his only known interview. Adrian's amazing photographs taken onboard UFO's during
his contacts have stunned and startled numerous experts, lending credibiltiy to his astounding story.
(See the UFO photos page for some of these pictures). His former fiance Claudina is also interviewed
for this article and was present for many of the contacts and appeared in many of the UFO videos he
shot during this period. Adrian is currently traveling in Europe.

[EDITOR'S NOTE: When Adrian arrived for the interview, he had lost his contact
notes. They had either been misplaced or stolen, and this greatly perturbed him.
From what I have read of his writings, he is very eloquent and profound. This
interview, and the transcription of it, will help him greatly in the future because of
the loss of these notes.

[He speaks English with a heavy Spanish accent, and some of this transcript my be
hard to understand because of his unique manner of speaking and inflection. I have
tried to clean it up where I can, and once you get into the rhythm of the piece you should have no
problems.

[Just remember! You heard it all here FIRST! Enjoy!]

May 8, 1996

Sean: So, with the loss of your contact notes, you are probably going to have to pretty much start all over
from the beginning today...

Adrian: Yes, I suppose I should.

Sean: Because the things that we are going over are very important, they have every thing to do with what
is happening on our little earth. Tell me about the pendant you are wearing. [The pendant appears to be a
large yellow faceted sapphire about the size of a small egg.]

Adrian: What do you think of it, eh?

Sean: I think it is beautiful. It looks like a yellow sapphire.

Adrian: It's a thing I wanted but I didn't know exactly how it would come about. I needed a jewel that
would perform certain functions. [Laughs] Looks like you have one too! [He points at the medallion
around my neck.]

Sean: It's called a nuclear receptor....

Adrian: That's interesting. That comes from Fred Bell, yes?

Sean: Yes. Dr. Fred Bell. He sends his regards by the way. He is also a UFO contactee.

Adrian: [Holding up the pendant] I wanted something that I could work with for certain reasons, certain
personal things, and so I just sent out the thought. Then the Pleiadians came in and said they were going to
give me something. In this case it was from someone else. A friend of mine called and said, "I have this
beautiful thing for you!" When I saw it I freaked out! Because it was exactly what I wanted, the shape and
everything. So they used her as a mediator, you know?

Sean: Does it have any particularly unique powers of abilities, or is it just nice?

Adrian: It seems just nice, but it's used to reflect back negativity. Anything as far as thoughts from people
or actions or whatever, it will be reflected right back at them.

Sean: So you were born originally in Cuba?

Adrian: Havana, Cuba, yes.

Sean: When's your birthday?

Adrian: This one...this body.... was born Nov. 19, 1955.

Sean: And in 1965 you came here to Miami?

Adrian: Well, the boy came here in 1960 and in 1965 was when the approach and the soul transfer
occurred. Let's talk about that a little bit.

The boy's physical body was very poor. He was partially mentally retarded and in very bad physical
condition. He [I] was throwing a ball in the air when he [I] saw a V-shaped phalanx of ships coming across
the sky. The lead ship began to glow very brightly and descend. He [I] thought it was a plane crashing so
the boy ran towards his bike, and before he could make it, he was taken up in the ship. Inside the craft was
when the boy first saw Adrian.

He is from a planet called Romel in the Alcyone star system, some 950 years in our linear future. The boy
was placed in a glass case and his soul essence was removed and healed, where it was incarnated in a
much more positive environment. Then Adrian laid down in a second glass case. There was a device that
looked like a large white box, like a refrigerator, with glowing tubes coming out of the glass cases into and
out of the white box. Adrian transferred maybe 10 or 20% of his mind and soul into this body, so that he
could exist simultaneously in the future and in this time-line. Like an archeologist or anthropologist that has
found a way to travel in time and not disrupt the structure of the time he is studying.

When I got up out of the glass case on the ship, and I saw this huge blonde being, it was like looking in a
mirror. Like looking back at myself.

Sean: So you are saying that you are not simply a 'Contactee', a human being in contact with
extraterrestials, but that you are, in fact, one of them?

Adrian: [Smiles] When I came in, I came in full consciousness. During the process of days I started losing
everything. Except the most important thing...Who I was. That was never lost. I retain only certain
memories. Now, I'm sort of trying to recuperate. I sort of went down for a long time and now I'm on my
way back up. Little by little. In other words, I've been left with about 5% of the whole consciousness.
Everything else is in the other one [the ET]. So I am very human now, you know.

When I came in, I took over all the mentally retarded boy's debts, his karma. That was part of the deal in
the astral plane, so that he could progress very quickly in his new incarnation. When I had fixed his karma
to a comfortable degree, then I left his family. I'll never forget it. The Pleiadians came into my room one
day and said they had orders from the Pleiadian high council. "You've got to leave as soon as possible.
Everything is arranged for you, because the vibrations here in the home are of fear with the contact." And I
was a little surprised in a way, but I was expecting it. And they said, 'Don't worry, everything is fine.
Everything will be O.K. We have contacts, and we've made arrangements, don't worry about anything.
Just pack up, and we'll take care of everything."

Sean: How old were you when this happened?

Adrian: Um, around 16 or 17, I think.

Sean: Where were you? Was this in the United States? In Miami? Where did you move to when you were
16? Where did you go?

Adrian: That's a curious thing. I did what they told me, packed everything. Then I get a call from a friend
of mine; saying to meet these guys who just came from Japan, a martial artist, staying for a while in Miami.
Oh, I said, 'Man, that's for me', I love martial arts. Then I went to see them, and we became friends, and
evidently they saw something, maybe not strange, but different in me, and they asked me if I wanted to
join them, and become part of the group, and I said, 'Oh this is the connection for me!' So, and I went to
live with these people, And I became a black belt and got involved with the Buddhist philosophy.

Sean: Did they have an Ashram, like a Dojo, here in Miami?

Adrian: Yes, here in Miami. They had a shrine in their house. So, I lived with them for months. And then
there I met another friend, and then after that, after I worked maybe 8 months, or something, I don't
remember. I went to live with a friend that I met there, with them, for about a year, something like that.
After that I got a job. Then I lived on my own; I got my own apartment, and like that.

Sean: So you started out being very independent, very young.

Adrian: Very young. 'They' started kicking me, really quick, to make me mature real quickly... at many
levels, and told me not to depend on people, not to trust in anyone. Not to trust many people.

Sean: Do you ever see your mother and father here much?

Adrian: No, they're dead, physically, now.

Sean: Oh. I'm sorry.

Adrian: They were pretty old. At that time, with that family. I have a half brother in New York, and that's
about it. I don't have any more family.

Sean: What happened to the physical soul of the... I'm not sure what his original name was, but the original
soul of the other body. The small boy you once were.

Adrian: They told me they took him to South America to reincarnate, in a family, which was very
interestingly, a family with money, and they are into a metaphysical things. So, he is much better. The deal
was pretty good for him. Good for him, for us, for everybody. Because he was not going to make it, he
was dying, and emotionally he wasn't well with that fanatical family. They were driving him crazy, you
know.

I was going crazy there. There were times I would come from school, and I'd see priests there, I'd see
psychiatrists in the house. Because they thought that the devil was in me. That's what they were saying.

Sean: Is that why?

Adrian: Yeah, because I would fool around with these people. Tell them the future, tell them sometimes
what I was dreaming, and bother them. I'd see what they would do. I spoke to these people like they were
an experiment in the house, you know. Not in a malicious way, you know? I just wanted to see some
reaction, to learn myself, and how they would take things, you know. I would play around like that, but,
what really did it, was in three weeks when I came in, it was just three weeks, I left the Church, that's
what really did it. And, then it got really very strong.

Sean: You left the Catholic Church? When you were 10, and you told your parents you didn't want to go
anymore?

Adrian: Yep. That's it. Just like that.

Sean: When was your first physical contact? When was the first time that you actually rode on a ship, do
you remember it? Physically, after you got your new body.

Adrian: Hmmm... I've got to think back. Because there were times it was done physically and there were
times it was done astrally, and sometimes that is very similar when to the physical, either way. I think the
next time was right away, immediately, and this was in a matter of days, in the same park. And then I
remember once, outside the Orange Bowl.... I would come with my bike, and with my footballs, and just
started kicking and stayed till very late at night.

Sean: So you were out playing soccer, and they came down and got you?

Adrian: That's how it would happen, the contact.

Sean: Outside the Orange Bowl? Was it outside or actually in the Orange Bowl?

Adrian: No, no. In the parking lot. On the grass. They have a big thing there. It is changed today, but
before it was bigger. And that's how they would do it, you know? My little bike, a bag of footballs. I was
pretty good at escaping. I was a high school kicker for Miami High and I was aiming to become a Pro, and
even once, some people from the New England, back then with Boston or something, they came to right
up to the field, and they told me, 'you are a good goal keeper, you can play for us.'

So I started preparing everything to go. Something told me to drop it, because that would have taken me in
another direction in my life, so, I turned them down. But, today, I still have the little part of me that asks
'how could it have been?' I could have played pro soccer, can you imagine?

Sean: Well, we have better things planned for you, believe me. And, so do the Pleiadians, I guess. Did
they ever give you a reason, as to why particularly they chose the body that you are in, now? As to why
they chose you at that time?

Adrian: Because one of the things they told me was that they knew the people in the family, a lot of the
family members of this body. And all the incarnations. They have had conflict with the same people that
live in that family of the little boy. Not only that, but there were things there from the past, dangling, that
had to be conquered and resolved. But on top of everything else, on many levels, that was proper, for me
to get excellent experience. Which I did. It was an excellent school. It was hard; it almost destroyed me
many times. That's the whole thing. It was very good. It matured me. It helped me in many ways, on
many levels. So many things like that were considered. The learning processes, the karmic process... it was
all so careful. That's why. That's the main reason.

So, I met a lot of people that were hot for me. But also I had things to accomplish with them and to learn.
So, until today and then just a little bit more until I leave this area. I'm going to go at any moment, I'm not
sure.

They don't tell me everything. You know how it works. They don't like to interfere. They might alter
things. I guess I needed the energy here. They are always saying, 'You become a teacher in this area, so
negative and so adverse, boy, you can feel satisfied', do you know what I mean? You can be good, you
know? That's what's happening to me, you know. I want to do something else better now.

Sean: When do you feel you absolutely have to be out of Miami?

Adrian: I think absolutely, before three years. Because there are things that can happen before. But since I
know that things can be changed, I always try to say that things can be either altered or pushed away, you
know?

Sean: Negative things?

Adrian: Things that have to do with geological disturbance and stuff like that. And I'm not always thinking
about that. And I don't care too much. I always think that if it's not for you, it's not for you. You will be at
the right place at the right time. You don't have to be thinking of getting money to buy property in North
Carolina, or afraid of this or afraid of that. I don't believe in that. I don't think in that way, anyway. You
could be in the most obvious place and the ship will come down right in an instant and take you and that's
it.

Sean: Exactly what do they want?

Adrian: They want stability right now. I know that for some it doesn't make any sense, it may even hurt
them, but again, they say they have faith, they are in control, and there is nothing to worry about. Some
people, they see this thing as a little shaky, they think that maybe I'm a little crazy, that I'm a liar. Maybe it
could even be a little fake. It is for our convenience. That's how they can proceed and work real good, on
me too, and then when the time comes, we'll launch a strong man, and then suddenly everybody will be
exposed behind their mask. That's what we're doing now. You just have to trust me. We are searching for
everybody that doesn't belong. Those people are going to stay behind. And whoever wants to come back
later, we don't let them in. So, I think that's what we are going to do. We are going to work with what we
have, and I'll give you a little bit once in a while in the form of photos and video.

Sean: With the video tape "THE MIAMI CONTACTS", and Randy Winters book "THE PLEIADIAN
MISSION", and the network TV special I have planned, many people will be talking about your case and
everybody will come along with their strong opinion one way or the other.

Adrian: Because there will come a time that the strongly powerful, hard core straight evidence, undeniable
evidence, there will come a time then, that that will be. But then these people, they will not be able to reach
that area. They are going to want it. But right now they will not be allowed, don't let them in, don't talk to
them. They had their chance. They could have said 'Well, maybe, this is a little strange, but let's give the
guy a chance', you know, and that feels like they have a heart and they want to know the truth as people,
that at least it will eliminate them very quickly. Those are the ones that I want to find out, or we want to
find out where they are. They're not getting anything in the future, on any level. So I'm finding out already
who to trust and who not to.

Sean: Was there a connection between the ET's and Nazi Germany?

Adrian: Yes. Through the Thule and Vril Secret Societies. The ET's originally made contact with were
very negative. But even those ET's, because of certain reasons, they, too, are also changing. They are
getting Higher. I will see what happens and how they behave when the.... thing hits the fan.... how do you
say? All of them as a group together, the original people that were part of that scenario in WW II, we will
see how much they have really changed. I know at least these Germans have changed a great deal. Now
the ET's, I think they still have a little bit more to go, but they are changing. Their leader, this Ashtar
Sheron.....

Sean: What's the leader's name?

Adrian: Ashtar Sheron Harusir.

Sean: Yes?

Adrian: He gave them [the Germans] the technology, and he helped all of them along with Hitler, get
away. That has nothing to do with the fact that the Nine Families had this technology even before all this.
Hitler got his technology around the 30's. These people that were in control of Hitler and in control of the
Nazi party, The Thule Society, the real bastards, all this stuff, the whole thing....

The Nine Families had all this technology long before it was given to Hitler and the Germans...since the
1800s.

The Nine Families started very strong contacts with the evil ET's hundreds of years ago and they helped
them with the building of all this advanced stuff.

Sean: You're saying Ashtar was the one that helped Hitler get away?

Adrian: Yes. He has done some very bad things. But, he may at some time in the future change...we will
see. He is a Pleiadian, this Ashtar.

Sean: Is that so?

Adrian: He is an old Pleiadian. He is on vacation.... is that how you say it.... those are the originals.

Sean: Why would the Nine Families choose the Germans to begin the release of this technology? Or to
develop this technology?

Adrian: Because the Germans, they chose them as the Police. Because the Germans are the closest thing
genetically to their forefathers, to the Nine Family's forefathers. They have alien genetics from these
people. They are Lyrans. The old war-like Lyrans who raped and pillaged across the galaxy millions of
years ago. That's why during the war they... give me time so I can explain something. You guys know
already, more or less, but people should know.

The wars, like all wars, are always controlled by the Nine Families ever since who knows when.
Generation from generation. Just to make money, and to take over land, and they always control
everybody that's involved. They have reunions of these Insider people and they say, 'Well, now tomorrow
it is your turn to bring your troops and destroy all his troops.' It is like fake wrestling. They get together
and create a fake scenario, and everybody gets a piece of pie, and that's what's been happening.

They chose the SS and all these people, the Germans, who actually have become the police, for the time
being, while they were doing all these things, and World War II and before, and in the future also, because
actually they were also the ones that created the CIA.... the Germans did. The Germans are all of the high
instructors of the CIA installations, wherever they are. All the teachers are German till this day. There is no
contract saying that that is the way it's supposed to be, but it is just the law, and that's the way it is. They
are all in control.

Sean: Do you remember the names? You mentioned the Nine Families a couple of times. Do you
remember the names of the nine families?

Adrian: Yes, I know, but I would say not like to say. The Rothschilds are the leaders.

Sean: Hapsburgs?

Adrian: Hapsburgs are one of them.

Sean: How about the Royal families?

Adrian: You are not going to put this out are you?

Sean: We want to know just for ourselves. I won't put anything out there unless you say that it's all right.

Adrian: No. You can say what's going on. But, leave the names out. Because that's negative Karma, and
we don't want to damage anybody, either. We've got to remember, they are also us, and they have a right
to do what they're doing, just like we have a right to fight them and do what we're doing. But we are not
going to injure anybody either, even though we know what they are doing, it is OK. But that's all part of
the Plan and the other peoples that you know those commissions. What is it? The Tri-lateral and the CFR,
they are just people getting used.

Sean: Are all of the nine families represented in the Bilderberger meetings?

Adrian: Yes, they are in charge of all these people. All these groups...the Bilderbergers that you
mentioned. What was another one that you said?

Sean: The Council on Foreign Relations.

Adrian: I have a friend that used to be a chef for these people when they get together. With a very high
Clearance. You know? He was a German. And he was with one of the hotel unions. He said everybody
was there, in the time when Nixon was the president. Everybody was there, and then my friend is in the
corner fixing the food, and then he hears Nixon start talking about something that my friend doesn't
remember, and demanding some things.

But in the middle of the room, where he was sitting, at a long table, there were three guys. Very young,
good looking dressed very nice. And all through the reunion they were very weird. They didn't talk once to
anybody. And when Nixon started talking, the guy in the middle started yelling at Nixon saying, "You are
stupid! You keep your mouth shut!" My friend, when he saw that, and he heard that, he was freaking out.

He said that Nixon actually, physically hung his head down and wouldn't look the man in the eye. Nixon's
face turned red and he started trembling, like a child being scolded. Now, who was the guy in the middle?
And the other two next to him? The other guys? They were no more than 30 years old, yelling at the
President of the United States!

Sean: I wonder if Watergate happened after that?

Adrian: I know! [Laughs] And after that came Watergate and I'm not sure how that's connected.

Sean: Do these Nine Families have access to the bases on the moon?

Adrian: They are the ones that have had this advanced super technology since the 1800's, I believe. Who
knows before that, I don't know. A loooong time. The thing that happened to the Nazis was giving them
some part of the technology that they allowed them to have. It's like they were giving it to The Police for
when the war was over. I'm going to get to that later. You will see how I'm going to connect it. If I don't,
remind me.

Sean: It's all right.

Adrian: They knew that after the war everybody was not going to destroy everything. The Consciousness
was totally all about just making money and so then they needed guys to go and construct the CIA, who
actually take care of these people when they go all around internationally, to establish themselves. That's
what the CIA originally was established for.

Sean: As their own private police force?

Adrian: Yes! They have their own private police force. And that's exactly what it is to this day. To this
day! But, the nine families with their technology that they have from secret scientists that no one will ever
know, and, all the scientists that are German, and the ones that came after World War II... they are the
ones on the moon. They are the ones on Mars. They've been there ever since the 40s. Since the 40s they
brought some French and some Japanese, too. Hundreds of thousands of people are up there. Hundreds of
thousands of people all living underground. They literally have made it like an earth. They have lakes, they
have trees, they've got everything. They can survive forever, they don't need anything. I have seen this
with my own eyes.

Sean: Underground on Mars?

Adrian: And on the moon, both?

Sean: Were there any indigenous people on Mars that protested when they went up there? Was there
anybody left on Mars?

Adrian: No. But in another dimension, yes. But not physically in how we see it. No. It is all deserted.

Sean: On the moon, the huge tower that the NASA scientist Richard Hoagland's 's talking about. Tell me
what that is.

Adrian: It's like an airport, like the thing over here, a control tower?

Sean: Richard Hoagland says it is 20 miles high and is made out of glass? It's a communications tower for
an airport?

Adrian: Yes. But that has to do with the Old Wars with Malona, from long ago, hundreds of thousands of
years. I don't think they are using it now for anything. They have probably tried to activate it but I don't
know if they have been successful. It is just like many of the things I have seen on Mars. The towers,
pyramids and monuments and all.

[Ed. Note: Malona is the name the Pleiadians gave to the 5th planet in our Solar System which blew
itself to smithereens in a great war over 200,000 years ago. What remains of Malona is now the
Asteroid Belt.]

Sean: Have you been up close to those and seen them at all?

Adrian: In the Astral plane. Many years ago and I saw all of the power. Like a giant speedway, what do
you call it? Like a runway. It looked deserted. Everybody's underground.

Sean: So what do these Nine Families have planned for us and the rest of the world in the next few years?
First off: How do you know the plan, and how do you know what they have planned?

Adrian: [Laughs] Man, that's a heavy question! One, because I was part of it once. In another
incarnation. I was one of these people.

Sean: One of the Nine Families?

Adrian: Part of it. Not directly. One of the officers.

Sean: How long ago?

Adrian: In the 1930's. Don't get confused. Don't worry. Because we can come and have millions of
lifetimes, then come back in a short time relative to the time line here on earth, with things like that in my
memory of what I've seen.

Sean: What are their plans? You spoke earlier about three things.

Adrian: The first thing is to create a mass genocide. Because they are under orders from the powers of the
'Older Ones', The Old Lyrans. From the United States. These guys were the great Overlords of Ich Whick.

Sean: What are they called?

Adrian: The Ich Whick.

Sean: Ish wish?

Adrian: The correct pronunciation of it is ICH Whick. Some people say Yahweh or Jehovah or whatever,
but Ich Whick is the correct pronunciation because the power is created when you say it correctly. It is
very powerful. It comes from the original Hebrew, which comes from a language that was created by the
life force. It brings out powers. Like singing it, you know?

They have orders from the Old Overlords to create a mass genocide. Because from that clean up then they
are supposed to create a new race, stronger people, from the human beings that are left, so that they can
actually work with officers and royalty and themselves. Because they cannot escape the vibration of the
earth. They didn't belong here originally. They died here and so they are stuck. They cannot incarnate
because they will explode a regular human body. The vibration here that is pulling them, they can't escape.
Naturally, this is a big problem for them. But, they are the ones behind all the trouble you have seen in the
history of the world.

These Overlords are stuck in the Astral world and cannot progress any further. They want to come back
here into this dimensional plane. These are the families of the aliens that were actually responsible for the
destruction of Atlantis. They are still here. They want to create a whole global genocide, to re-create a
super race. That is the whole mystery behind everything that is. Then they want to leave some percentage
of sub-humans, to use as a slave race. A slave race that is human but also part robotoid, using the
mechanics to make them easier to control.

Sean: This 'slave race' is probably going to be us.

Adrian: It is incredible what they have planned! These people don't know which race they are going to use
as the 'servants' yet. Probably everybody who is left over.

They are scheming so many things. They are planning another war. Like they planned all of the others.
They actually not only make money and help each other but they are looking at killing a fantastic amount
of people they have a problem with. So they are doing that. They have all these designer drugs. The
designer viruses. The microwaves. All of the technology. You think that you know about most of it, but
you can't even dream of what they have! They want complete Genocide!

Attempting constantly to accelerate the spin of the Earth with atomic blasts to switch the poles, cause that's
an easy way.... it is a convenient way to eliminate a lot of people, and sort out all the trash. Down there
everything is cleared so that they can come back. That's one reason they are establishing an entire
civilization on the moon and mars. So, that they can leave it all behind and then come back and make
everything new.

Sean: Who is going to stop them? What do you think will happen?

Adrian: They are going to kill themselves in the end. Because of the vibration of the New Era. The New
Zodiac.

Sean: The Ascension Frequency?

Adrian: Yes! That is an excellent name for it! They won't be able to go against us. That energy works in a
very interesting way, because it is combining all the energies we have but consciously and on purpose. It
comes from Electric Consciousness from Beings... from the center of the galaxy and the center of the
Universe. Mostly from the galaxy. Combining this energy is combining with our DNA on purpose at the
start of the Aquarian age, and it is hitting everybody in a serious way as a natural power. The people that
are unbalanced, they become more unbalanced.

And the people, who are metaphysical, will become even more metaphysical. More good beautiful hearts,
more love, whatever. So it amplifies whatever is in you.

These guys that we are talking about, they chose as a learning procedure for their own souls to be very
unbalanced. So, this energy is going to kill them. They are going to kill themselves off. They are going to
go crazy totally, or explode or just die. I mean, that's it. They can't and they won't be able to hold the
energy.

Sean: Is that what Project HAARP [High Altitude Aural Research Project] is about and all of the
electromagnetic frequency bombardment and all the pollution is all about? They are trying to actually
destroy the evolving DNA of the human race?

Adrian: Well, yes, they are doing that because they know that people are becoming very dangerous. They
are finding out what has been going on all this time, and it is now or never. So, they are very nervous, and
very afraid. That's why they are microwaving us, and that's why all the building construction and the
quality of the food changed, and all the things that they are doing. They want to do something now. They
are against the wall. They know about the energy of the Ascension and the Zodiac. They know about the
energy of the collective consciousness. They know the people are changing, they know something can
happen, and that the Alliance will come to interfere. They are not going to, but that's why they have the
moon bases, the military bases, weaponry out there in case of an attack. All the Star Wars stuff. But not an
attack from an alien race, like people think. No. It's an attack from the actual government. Like a parent
coming down to a little kid starting a fire and saying, "That's enough! No more!" They are afraid. A lot of
people don't have the understanding. They felt all this weaponry was for Russia for a war, or for an alien
invasion, no, no, no. It is again about the Alien Alliance. To be used against the Alliance, should they
interfere, or against us if we evolve too far. They know that they can't get away with what they are doing
here forever.

Sean: Who is the Alliance?

Adrian: The Universal Alliance of Planets.

Sean: How many are there?

Adrian: That's what I forgot. All that information was in my notes.

Sean: 48? More than that?

Adrian: No, no. Lots more. It is a line that is established in all dimensions, everywhere and it has a lot of
ramifications. One Confederation is aligned with another, and that is confederated with another alliance.
They are all interconnected by various treaties and agreements. So, the family's membership is endless. It
goes into other universe; I had it all down, all the numbers, in my notes, which someone has stolen. I had
the membership of the aliens that controlled this part of the galaxy, which is in Andromeda.

Sean: Andromeda the galaxy or Andromeda the constellation?

Adrian: Oh, both. Both are very high and both have a great deal to do with it for some reason. It just
happened like that. Now, the constellations are closer to the Pleiadies.

Sean: Getting back to the future. What's the other thing, beyond the genocide? Oh, OK, the first thing is
the genocide. A genocidal war. Where is it going to start? When and where is it going to start?

Adrian: In Europe.

Sean: Who are going to be the major players in it?

Adrian: Israel will have something to do with and the people in the Mediterranean. And then later on, I
think China will get involved. Little by little everybody will end up losing control and getting involved. But,
of course, at the top, the leaders are all saved and uniting just like we are doing. Thinking this out and
planning it all. No one is really the enemy of anybody. I'm sorry. People are just in the way like
always...like pawns in a game of chess.

Sean: How long does the next war last?

Adrian: Two or three years.

Sean: That's all? Do you know when it starts?

Adrian: Supposedly around 1998 or 1999. They have it all planned! They have the plans all laid out, the
goal in numbers for the elimination of a certain number of people.

Sean: How many?

Adrian: I had it all written down.

Sean: Take a guess...

Adrian: Several billions...

Sean: Do they use atomic weapons?

Adrian: I think they were more advanced than atomic weapons. It was something more strange. It was
weather control technology they were using. If I can remember when I saw it, they were creating huge
winds. So maybe 5 hurricanes at the same time. You know just one can do a lot.

Sean: So it's made to look like natural disasters?

Adrian: Yes. They use different weapons. Weapons that people have never seen before, and can't even
imagine. It is something out of a fantastic movie, from an acid trip, or whatever; it was really something
strange.

Sean: So like earthquake inducing devices, hurricane inducing devices?

Adrian: Yes, weather control.

Sean: So, we won't think its war, will we? We'll think it's all natural disasters.

Adrian: And then that's the excuse to use regular simple conventional weapons. Because we don't have
any food, and now we have a controversy. Because they might still have something stored there, some
grain, and we've got to take all that land, and they order the stupid captains in the lower ranks around to do
it. They think they are playing a real war, you know? And so they will actually go out and start a lower war
with conventional weapons. It will go from induced atmospheric and geological problems and I'm afraid
that it will go to conventional weapons after that.

Sean: What's the next thing, the second thing you were saying. There were three things?

Adrian: Oh...remind me.

Sean: Genocide was the first one of the goals of the Nine Families. There were two more?

Adrian: The second one, genetically engineering the perfect body, then the special bodies for the slave
race, and the other one for the ET's who want to come in, who have no where to go, the Original People,
and they consider this their real estate. They are not going to give up until they get this world. They have it
already, but they just want a taste of it a little better than they can now. Finally, total control.

Sean: Why don't they just take it over tomorrow? They've got all the power. What's stopping them?

Adrian: There are a lot of good people in this world. Our vibration, in itself, is what stops them. We are
the last line of defense, whether we know it or not. Our own power field. There is a lot of good love, a lot
of good open hearts, a lot of spiritual warriors and aliens helping out, too. Very subtly. They are also very
afraid that if they come to far out into the open, it could back fire.

Sean: They are not in a hurry, are they?

Adrian: Huh, yes, yes! The aliens are in the way; we are in the way! There are a lot of good things
happening. They just can't take over like that. Their energy is very powerful, but fragile...easily burned
away. That is how it is with the Forces of Darkness. It only takes one small candle to light a whole room.
They just have to make sure we don't light that candle.

Sean: Is there another great Anti-Christ, another great world leader that comes to power?

Adrian: There's a probability. But not definite, with a stamp.

Sean: Nostradamus talks about the third great Anti-Christ, the guy in the blue turban. I have had some
run-ins with him and his uncle on the astral plane. The coming Arab leader of Islamic/China confederation.
Have you seen any of that?

Adrian: He comes in saying that he is one of the incarnations of an old prophet from the Bible, and that
the Bible says that his coming has been predicted. He is coming out as a religious figure. Very good
looking, too, very strong. He is incarnated already, that guy, but if he is going to do all that, we don't know
yet. It could change. There is a man who comes to great power, but it is the fall of the Church, he is
connected with it.

Sean: The fall of the Catholic Church?

Adrian: Yes, but that I saw that more concrete. That's more favorable. It was stronger. I could grab it
more. But, the other guy, no one may ever even know he is here, but he can become something else. And
then people would say, 'They lie, the psychics were wrong!" They said, no. Things just went another
direction. (Break)

[ED. NOTE: I had a chance to chat with Claudina, Adrian's beautiful fiancé. She of all people
convinced me of the validity of this case. She is bright, honest, gentle, and totally guiless. She goes on
most of the off-world trips with Adrian, and gives a soft, feminine perspective to this entire thing. I
also saw a photo, taken by Adrian, of two saucer shaped craft, one hovering a few feet off the ground,
and the other with an extended ladder. Claudina was climbing up it to get into the ship! Here I talk
with her about her experiences.]

Sean: What's the greatest experience you've had in this whole wild adventure?

Claudina: Well, I've always had a strong affinity with dolphins, and anything that has to do with
underwater life, always since a kid, you know?

Sean: Yes..

Claudina: This was before all this started happening, it was very, very strong. I mean extremely strong. It
was something that I was just always in my mind, you know, and I told Adrian that there is something
weird going on, because it's like, constantly in my mind, you know, and, I really don't know what it was all
about. So Adrian smiles at me and he goes, 'You'll find out soon!" And I'm like; 'You can't tell me now?'
He says, "No, not yet, but you are going to find out soon enough. You'll be surprised." I said OK. So, one
day when we had an encounter, it was a time that I was able to go....

Sean: You had to take off work in order to go? [Claudina works as a cashier in a local market.]

Claudina: No, no, no. It was a time that I was able to go. But, you see, I don't go all the time, and they
told me that this one in particular was something special for me. To kind of prepare me for something that
is coming in the future, that hasn't gotten here yet, but it is coming, and it is getting close.

But, to ease my mind a little bit, of something that I've been almost obsessive about, and wondering what
is going on, you know, with dolphins and whales and seals and I mean everything. Mermaids and this and
that.... and they took me to this planet, they said they couldn't tell me the name of it, because I wasn't
ready to know, but that I would know about it in the future.

For some reason they were going to talk to me, and they couldn't tell me it yet. But, effectively we went in,
and they took the ship down. It's weird, because it's not like an atmosphere in the sense that you still have
land, and then you have the sky, you know? It's not like that. It's like all water. Just like from top to
bottom, it's just like a big ball of water, something you've never seen before. And, they have all kinds of
creatures there. I mean, man and animals that are here like dolphins and seals and some other things we've
never even seen before. They have cities, you could say, but buildings that are transparent, it looks like
crystal quartz, transparent that have a faint glow to them. Like pure energy and they have like a pyramids
and igloos and circular structures. Those were the types of shapes I noticed their buildings were like.

When I saw that I felt such relief, and I knew that was where my connection is. They told me that I had
another life there, and its not too far back, that's why I'm so close to it. But that in the future I was going
to find out more about it, because I have something that I have to bring to this planet that comes from that
lifetime.

But, right now, I'm not ready to know everything, and that's why they couldn't tell me everything that's
going on, but that I will in the future, and a lot of things will be coming together, and eventually I'll be able
to do what I came here to do, my mission, which is going to be helping a lot of people, but, it comes from
that lifetime, in that particular planet. It explains a lot of things. Why I always as a kid I loved the water
and nobody ever taught me how to swim. I just jumped in and did it! That's something that my parents
were always amazed at. That I was just a little, little, little baby, but I would just play by myself in the
water and be hours and hours and hours and be under water holding my breath. They couldn't understand
it. You could say that is the most touching experience to me.

Sean: Did your water planet have any other features, like a lot of moons?

Claudina: To be honest with you, I mean, I didn't even notice. I mean I was so, like, into everything I
saw, the animals, it was great, but I was just amazed. The other thing is that I love animals, in general, you
know. So, when I was there I was like blinking, I couldn't believe it! So, I really honestly I didn't have any
fear of anything around, I was just feeling like a horse when they put the blinders on, that's exactly how I
was.

Sean: So you didn't get a chance to talk to any of the people?

Claudina: No, no. We were in the ship the whole time and we saw it on the screen, like we were watching
out a window. And they just said, "Observe it and remember this! And in the future you are going to know
more about it, but right now, we'll give you a little push." At the same time my mind was going a hundred
miles an hour. Like you have something inside you that's asking so many questions.... what is this? What is
that? You know? And they just said I could relax and know I'm not going crazy.

Sean: Did you have a favorite person on the ship that you liked? Any particular person that you were
friends with or felt close to?

Claudina: Um, mostly I would say, I would say it would be Mooka.

Sean: Is it a man or a woman?

Claudina: It is a lady.

Sean: Are they all women?

Claudina: The ones that we see, yeah. But I haven't seen any men so far.

Sean: What do they look like?

Claudina: They have long hair, longer than I do. Down past their waist. Dirty blonde. Very, very pretty.
And big, big eyes, that look like cat eyes. You know?

Sean: Do they look like yours?

Claudina: Yeah, but they are bigger. They look like cats. Every time I see my cat, I think of them because
they have those almond shaped eyes, like cats do. You know, they go out and slant up. Really pretty!

Sean: Uh huh. Do they have a round retina in the eye like a person or a vertical slit like a cat?

Claudina: No, no. It's regular, round, like a person.

Sean: Anything about the ears? Big ear lobes, pointed ears?

Claudina: Their ears are normally, you know, like ours. They might have a little extra skin down here, at
the lobe. But, nothing super noticeable.

Sean: How tall are they?

Claudina: They are pretty tall. They are like, 6'2 or 6'6. For a woman, that's big. Very, very prettily
shaped features. They look like dolls. They don't have a space at the bridge of the nose. Y'know that dent
where the nose starts. It seems to come straight down from the forehead. A Roman nose, like on as ancient
statue.

Adrian: But it looks good.

Claudina: Yes, it looks very nice. There are very few people that have that straightness. They usually all
have very big noses, you know? They have, it is straight like that, but it is very feminine, I don't know... I
can't explain it, but it's very, very nice. I mean, it is hard to explain. They are very, very pretty. Their
mouths are also perfectly shaped.

Sean: Do you see the same people every time you're on the craft?

Claudina: Most of the time. Mainly Mooka.

Sean: Just her

Claudina: Well, no. It's her and another girl, but she won't tell me her name for some reason.

Sean: You asked?

Claudina: I asked her and she just looked at me and she said "Regretfully I cannot tell you." So, I was,
like, OK.

Sean: Could you get an image or a symbol or anything from them when you talked to them? Instead of
them having a name is there some sort of symbol that you see when you see each one of them?

Claudina: No, not really.

Sean: Do they ever talk to you telepathically? Or do they speak just like we do?

Claudina: Most of the time they talk to me like we do, but sometimes it is mentally.

Sean: Do they speak English pretty well?

Claudina: Oh God, yeah.

Sean: Could you tell me if you know anything about Area 51? Because apparently they have a Pleiadian
beam ship and I was wondering if you know anything about how they got it.

Adrian: I was told once that they [The Pleiadians] actually left one of the craft in some field. They just left
it there, and somebody came to pick it up, but they can't work it correctly. But, it is actually like a trick.
Like a Trojan horse. It is like a camera. They have monitors on the craft that can see into anything. Into
the earth, right through walls.... but at Area 51, and many of the other bases where they are being helped
by the darker entities, they have technology that can block the viewing monitors. So they let them have a
stripped ship to study, so that we could have a spatial reference point to see what they were up to inside
the base. It is the only thing I know, having to do with one of the crafts. I don't know anything else about
it.

Sean: Why can't they work it correctly?

Adrian: The ships are partly organic. When they are being manufactured they use a sample of tissue from
the person that is going to operate the craft. This helps to establish a physical and telepathic resonance
which acts as a deadman switch, so that if the operator dies the craft can only perform rudimentary
functions, like hovering, but is no longer capable of space flight. The whole ship would have to be rebuilt
and completely reprogrammed.

Sean: On of the ships that Bob Lazar [the scientist who defected from Area 51] saw had three small chairs
in it, but looks just like the ship we just saw in the video.

Adrian: No, no. That is a Zeta Reticulan craft. Some of the Pleiadian ships look very similar to the
beamships on the outside, but there are some subtle differences.

Sean: Can you tell me anything, what you know about the crop circles? First off, who is making them,
why they are made, maybe what they mean? The modern crop circle phenomena started in May of 1990
in England. Any reason for that?

Adrian: One reason we see most of the crop circles in England, is because that is where many of the Nine
Families are based. They are working with a reptilian race that live many miles underground.

Sean: Is this correct?

Adrian: The Alliance have gone directly into the back yard of these Nine Families and they are telling them
to stop what they are doing, and telling the reptilians that the secret world order work with to get out or
suffer the consequences. It is a message, and they have a time limit. So when the ninety percent of these
circles are found in the night, most of these circles are done as a form of communication, some type of
code, universal code. It is the language to communicate with the non-benevolent ET's that have the world
strangled to tell them they will not triumph. A small percentage of them are also little messages for people
who are waiting for things and certain signs.

Sean: Who makes the circles?

Adrian: They are made mainly by the Arcturians, and some people from the Alliance come in from the
Andromeda constellation.

Sean: So the crop circles are being made by Arcturian ET's or do they come up from up inside the earth?

Adrian: When they are made initially they use small craft, and then the negative ones come down to sort
of read them, the way people have filmed them, and think that those craft are the ones that are making
them. [Laughs] They get pretty rattled when they read them and find out what we are going to do to them.

Sean: Since I've been in the fields in England about 100 yards away at the same time the circles are being
made, I can tell you there seems to be no visible phenomenon whatsoever. It's like they ooze up out of the
ground.

Adrian: Well, because the craft are cloaked, and the beams they use are way above the visible spectrum of
light.

Sean: Have they ever taken you or have you ever asked to go to Andromeda, to go sit in on the counsels
of the Alliance?

Adrian: Not really. But, I have a feeling with it because Adrian has attended the Council many times.
When that happens...whew... those feelings of peak experiences that happen are for me hard things to talk
about. Of course, Adrian tells me a lot of things. What they want to do with the earth, and everything else.

Sean: Who does the Andromedan Council report to? Do they report to anybody else, anybody higher?

Adrian: There are people in the organized group, in the council of the nations that I told you about. And
then they report to people more inside on a mental vibration. And those report to something more inside....
something of a varied vibration or most important was something that was called a spirit vibration and they
report to something more inside of the heart, what they have experimented with many times and.... there
are no words for it. It is a soul vibration. The spirit is not the highest vibration, the soul is. It is just like the
spirit that leads to the soul of these pasts, a protective sheath and that's where everything comes from.

It is a collective consciousness of people that have made it in the many incarnations. As they come in they
join into one vibration and they get bigger and bigger. Things of the Creation. It is very important. And
then those huge 'Corporate Entities' report to some others, you know it is like a chain of command.

Sean: They report to beings in another universe?

Adrian: Yep. Which they are ones that are mainly responsible to overseeing this universe. Another
universe sees the other one and they start to talk and then.... that's how it usually is.

Sean: There's no original universe?

Adrian: It doesn't exist. It is infinite, from the biggest to the smallest. We can't be talking about all those,
this planet, the solar system, the Little Dipper, the galaxy, this universe with all the other ones. It is a
fantastic number. A gigantic universe, a giant universe, that has next to it a whole bunch of other ones,
gigantic universes, and all the rest that we are talking about.... it is big. All of that is part of my thumb.

Sean: So there is infinite bigness and infinite smallness?

Adrian: Who would know we are in the middle of this. It is going to lead to the highest and the lowest.
That's why our symbol looks like something like this. With three lines and one joining. That is the universe
and the creation. [He draws a symbol.]

Sean: I have videotape, and I have photographs of ships that have this symbol on the bottom of it.

Adrian: Oh?

Sean: Yes. The are called the UMMO and that symbol is on the bottom of their craft.

Adrian: That line on the bottom is the physical world, the one here, like the invisible,
ethereal world. And then up here, the design of the soul worlds, and they are joined
together. To the highest eternal, to the lowest eternal of creation.

Sean: Is there a ruler of this galaxy? Is there a name for somebody that maybe rules
or runs most of this galaxy?

Adrian: The galaxy, no. It is just a collective consciousness; you know what I mean? It's like I said its
beings that have made a different connection together with beings from other universes that have the same
standards.

Sean: Have you had any other experience with people living on any other planets in this solar system with
exception to the moon and mars?

Adrian: Some beings on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn. I was told that these are from Orion.

Sean: How many races have you had direct contact with?

Adrian: That's a good question. The Sirian negatives, the Orion negatives, but no one in the sense in
particular that didn't look pretty much like a Grey from Orion. The Pleiadians, of course and some beings
from the constellation of Pegasus.

Sean: What did they look like? A thumb nail description?

Adrian: They, uh, believe it or not these people have wings.

Sean: The ones from Pegasus have wings?

Adrian: The people from there tend to have wings, it doesn't mean that everybody there in that system
has wings. Just like people that look like Germans. But they are not all like blonde.

Sean: What do the Sirians look like?

Adrian: The Sirians, the original Sirians, that came over are mainly Jewish, some Black people.... tall
Black people. But their noses, they are big, it is not flat like a Black person. It is a face, a little long and tall,
thin. They look tough, you know, interesting, very strong.

Sean: And the Zeti Reticulians? Mostly a small race?

Adrian: Yes. They have differences. Some are more human looking, more like Chinese, most of them.
And some look more like the pictures you see. They always have big heads. These other ones look more
grayish. With bigger eyes. And um, you can tell when they're from there because they have an ambiance
like they were little children. Mischievous but yet innocent. It appears in how they walk, how they act,
their vibration. It is no bother to me, the way they come and poke you.

Sean: So they are not physically good or bad.

Adrian: No, those are good, those are good. But the ones that are confusing everybody, that look pretty
much the same, small, grayish with big heads, are from Orion. Those are the bad ones.

Sean: And what do the Pleiadians from your system look like?

Adrian: The women are 6'2 to 6'6. The men are between seven and nine feet. They all have a Roman
nose that comes straight down from the forehead, with no dent at the bridge of the nose, with very large,
liquid, almond shaped cat's eyes.

Sean: Where do the American Indians come from? The red race?

Adrian: From the seventh point of Atlantis.

Sean: But where did they come from before that?

Adrian: Before that? They belonged to the Sirian and Orion system. They are dark people. Um, of course,
like I've said, the ones that are screwed up, the evil ones, they also come from the systems of Sirius and
Orion, they are negative ones, but they don't look black or red. They look sickly and whitish, and you have
old ones and you have small ones. And most of them don't have any hair. Those are the ones that are in
trouble.

Sean: Is there going to be an extraterrestrial invasion of this planet, some time around the 2004, 2005?

Adrian: There was a plan to do that with the cooperation of the Nine Families which has to do with that
Chupacabra thing going around that you were investigating in Puerto Rico. But the ultimate thing will be to
create so many problems, so much fear, pollution, war, crime, invasion from aliens, and the Chupacabra
and all that, it is a whole plan to launch a fake invasion. It comes to a conclusion that everybody gives up
and says to the World Government, 'Please Help! Come save us!'

The Chupacabra is creature created by genetic experimentation, and being purposely released into the
population to get people used to the idea of some kind of evil alien invasion. You know, and that's when
they have the special forces that come in, with marshal law, take over and tear up the constitution...poof!...
gone! That's the plan. See? Because like I said, they are seeing that people are becoming very intelligent,
they are learning what's been happening, so they are very afraid, they know the Constitution and the things
that they will take away. But that's why we have the mind control, the mass mind control, for the kids,
using the TV and all that stuff to make them hang around with pistols, start shooting people and everything
else, so that then it will make an easier excuse for when they want to take over.

Parents and senators and everybody sending letters, "Hey let's the gun out of the street!" So that makes it
easier for them, when the thing really starts that the troops can handle people easier. You know? And this
is the whole mass plan.

Sean: So you are saying that there is no threat from the Reptilians, there's no threat from a real invasion?

Adrian: No, no threat. The only threat is that they have technology here that they don't care about
anything. They don't need to tell anybody, they have enough. The threat to them is the Alliance. They are
wondering how long is the Alliance going to let the Shadow Government get away with what they are
doing. So that's their actual fear.

Sean: We can change this can't we?

Adrian: Yes! With this conversation, we can actually alter through sound waves, things all around us, and
that somewhere something changes, and those changes and that one like dominos. It starts a whole
different future, you know?

Sean: We need to reach through the mind control. Tear down that screen, and it changes people. By
writing and talking about all this.

Adrian: Yes, because that's one thing that escapes them. That people have souls. They have the life force,
which is of great power. But it, too, is a form of energy; and it can be trapped by the evil ones. They can
create a situation like when you are dying, and they can create a hoax, a fake scenario with a light and a
tunnel and Jesus Christ and everything, 'Oh it's the light! Jesus is coming, Oh yes!' They can trap the soul
and trick it. Suddenly you are in a laboratory at some kind of station there. They wipe everything out and
then you are back here again. They live on that. They live on the notion that they are constantly
reincarnating over and over with fake lives, not enough time to catch up on what's going on. No time to
build up any strength or wisdom. These souls are sometimes abused, even for hundreds of thousands of
years, well not hundreds of thousands of years, but three or four or five hundred years.

Sean: Who lives that long?

Adrian: These entities, you know?

Sean: Which entities?

Adrian: The ones that do this stuff, the Sirians, the Orions the old ones from Atlantis, the ones that are
doing the most damage, the Pleiadian splinter groups together with the old Lyrans. There are beings from
Ursa Major that are most amazing. They are half man and half lizard. Big people, you know. Very strong.
Oh, you have small ones there, but the majority are very strong, very big up to 1,000 or 1,500 thousand
pounds these people weigh. They are warriors, that's a problem, too. And so all these people are living in
their own artificial ambiance and they are tired. They want to be in your dimension, they want to be free,
you know? To breath and move and be comfortable, to be out of the bubble as they say.

Sean: What do they do with the soul energy once they absorb it, once they trick it, put it into the
laboratory? You are saying that they use people coming to the light, or going to the light, as a kind of trick.

Adrian: Yes, they do that. In many cases they capture not the soul, but the astral body, but when they
capture the astral body the soul is captured too for a time. If it is strong enough it gets out, if it's not, the
other part of the two senses are not developed enough. They stay pretty much like in a prison. And that's a
problem.

Claudina: And when they die are they taking them to the astral plane, where is it their spirit and the soul
go?

Adrian: For instance, here you can do the same thing from witchcraft. When somebody dies, you can be
ready for him with entities on the other side. That are waiting for him, with the same vibration that you are
coming into. And they will capture you, and they can actually put you in a box. And you are stuck there.
So, you can capture somebody with this magic technology. In a way you can work with it, the soul
perception, because of the lack of evolution and all the best bodies around you they haven't evolved. For
people that are weak, they can be made to work for you later. They will become slaves and stuff like that.
That's how it works.

Sean: But there are entities that can feed on the soul force, the soul energy?

Adrian: Oh, right. That's a good question. How do they do it? It's true. They do. The ones that do that
are the ones that are the good-looking ones. The ones that look like angels, the strong ones, that look like
Pleiadians, those are the refugees from Atlantis. Down here, they are the ones that are in charge of the
whole thing.

And so these are the ones that feed from the energies of the people, from the astral operations, they are
looking always for people that kneel down easily and give all their power away and this and the other thing,
feed from this, and that's why you see these ships from these beings, hanging out around football games,
around churches, anywhere groups of fanatic people gather for something where there is a lot of emotion
exchanged, and anger. Forces that these things feed off of, they take this energy, take it, take it, and use it.

Some will still filter that energy in the ships. Some will stay in the ships. Then all of the other energy that is
left over, they actually transport it to different places around the putting it away there. Then it manifests
problems, wars and stuff like that. You can see out in the streets, all the crime and everything else. So they
actually come for the scent of you... wherever they cling. It keeps the control role, you know? So they live
from that. Isn't that interesting?

Sean: Why do UFO's usually always appear over areas before there are major natural catastrophes or
wars?

Adrian: I guess it is one reason is to watch for what's happening and to see if they can take somebody.
And many times they wait until the disaster comes, and the whole building falls, and everything else, and
that's how they can easily take people and people won't be missed that way. I don't know if I'm explaining
it right.

Sean: No, you are explaining it perfectly.

Adrian: It is a great opportunity to just take people, and it is a direct incarnation from one people to the
other, with the physical body. They weigh it....watching....waiting. They are always watching. Always
looking.

Sean: The good guys or the bad guys?

Adrian: Both, actually. They are both sometimes using the same methods, but that is not in general.

Sean: So there's no extraterrestrial threat to this planet right now? There's no reptilian fleet or armada on
its way here; the Arcturians aren't battling anyone outside the asteroid belt...?

Adrian: No. If it happens it's a staged thing.

Sean: But there's no battle happening between the asteroid belt and Ort clouds, the Arcturians aren't
fighting off the reptilians, right?

Adrian: In the old days that would happen. Sometimes if that can happened with somebody that comes in
accidentally, without knowing these laws, the trust and time or something like that, and faith is one of these
things outside, you know, and so sometimes you have little wars or something like that. But the Alliance
would never.... they don't work that way. They don't fire on anybody, not actually physically. They would
if they had to, you know? It happens once in a rare while. They have police all over. They stay away from
that kind of thing. Reactions take place when the Greys or Reptilians know they are going to get arrested
and they shoot at anything. You know, they are very trigger-happy. It's a race that's been created directly
on purpose, to see if they can, if they would know how to develop emotion. A warrior race. Human beings
crossbred with reptiles. Originally it was created as a land force, labor and warriors, but then they started
getting smart. If you create something like that then their intelligence started telling them they wanted their
own ships. They wanted space too. To live and be independent. Now they live 200 to 300 hundred miles
underground.

Sean: How did they get there?

Adrian: With the ships.

Sean: Why do they live under the earth?

Adrian: Like I said. The answer to this is that they feel cool, they feel comfortable because of the light and
the atmosphere, you know. And also so no one can see them, in the darkness. It is interesting, because in
the Atlantean days people would create fantastic cities underground to keep away from the big animals,
you know, dinosaurs and all. Now these creatures have gone underground, because they look like the
dinosaurs, and they are afraid of the humans on the surface.

Sean: Let's talk about time travel. When was the first time you traveled in time? When was it? How old
were you? What can you remember?

Adrian: I was 15 or 16. Man, they just pulled me up right into a ship, outside of Miami Beach.

Sean: From where?

Adrian: In a house with some people I used to live in.

Sean: So it was a long ways away from Miami?

Adrian: Uh, a half an hour drive, I guess.

Sean: OK. So you were taken up in the ship?

Adrian: I was slammed into the future. A future Miami Beach. The first thing that I see is that they drop
me and I hit the sand, and I start seeing the sun, and I look straight ahead, and saw water. I said, 'Where
am I?' It comes by surprise! They don't tell me anything. That's one of the curious things. They did it by
surprise. Nothing was prepared before hand.

Then I looked back, and of course, then I noticed I was there in south Miami Beach, because you see all
the hotels. I said, 'OK, so here I am, what's going to happen now?' and to see if for some reason nothing
would happen, I was just waiting. And I mean, wow! I was kicking up some sand, and I was walking, but
then I noticed the light starts getting dim, like bad weather, you know, that kind of ambiance, like a little
breeze, you know, then a nice breeze. Then I heard screaming in the street on the other side of the hotels.
Then I had a feeling just to look out at the ocean, you know? I had a feeling that maybe whatever I am
there for, it's coming from that way. And, I was right! From the east, it looks like a black line, and the line
starts moving up. And I said, 'oh, oh, oh!' I wonder what's coming over there. And it kept getting bigger
and bigger, and all of a sudden, the weather starts getting a little stronger, you know? The wind blowing
and everything. I see and hear people running around crazy, all over, and I can remember a lot of people
desperately falling, and I was walking right over them. I'll never forget. All around me, you know? And I
said, "Oh my God! Look at that!"

It was a giant wave coming right at us! Then I started remembering in New York the buildings, how they
look like. Giant buildings and I said, 'That thing is following me. That old man is going to take all this out
like toys!'

And then all of a sudden, a starship appeared and about a dozen people were beamed down and they
appeared to my left-hand side. But also other starships appeared that started quickly, franticly beaming
people up and out of the city in the ships.

So, exactly as I say on my left, this group of people that had beamed down were just looking at me, and
with their minds telling me, 'Yes, it's us, we are here and we are ready. Tell us what to do. Where do we
go?' And there was no expression on their faces.

Sean: Who were they?

Adrian: Young people. I didn't recognize them, but they recognized me. They were just regular people. I
was surprised that they recognized me, and apparently I didn't recognize them. You know?

Then I said, 'Well..... this is where we have to go. Follow me, let's go.' Then we very calmly walked. We
were walking and everybody is running around, but we were in a protected force field. I didn't see it, but I
felt it. The field was 5 or 10 feet around, and these people were here, and then we were walking with them
this way.

All around it is like a revolution with people walking over children screaming, and then I was thinking,
'Look how interesting, how they are running, and screaming and going crazy and running.... but to where?
Where are they running? There is no where to run!" I was thinking that. I remember that. Which is very
curious too. And that's when I...poof.... got taken back up and then I became like a camera watching the
scene.

Sean: So you were up in the air, looking down. You saw the wave cover up all of Miami?

Adrian: Yeah. The water receded. Is this how you say it?

Sean: You went back up to the ship?

Adrian: Oh, no. In the air, it came back out of the air or something, which I can't explain. No, I didn't see
the ship, no... nothing. Or those people, anymore, or whatever. Just that was over and done with. But,
those people were safe, and of course, they came there, for that project, and I saved them for whatever
reason. What I saw were little dots aligning. Which were islands that were left.

Sean: How far up in the air were you?

Adrian: I felt like the distance was changed as I traveled. What is it ten thousand feet, twenty thousand,
more or less?

Sean: And were you looking down on all of Florida?

Adrian: Yes. But my body was higher. Yes, I was higher than that, because I saw much more of the
gigantic peninsula. It could have been a hundred thousand feet, or a hundred thousand five hundred, fifty
thousand, a hundred, something like that. I could see the whole thing from one corner to the other. From
the Atlantic Ocean I could see to the Gulf. Maybe a hundred thousand feet.

Sean: Florida was gone?

Adrian: Yes. Not the whole thing, though. I saw little dots and when the thing sort of still moving very
violently, around Lake Ocachobee. The wave covers just a little higher in the middle, not exactly in the
middle, just a little higher. And then, all of a sudden, I feel this rush coming down this way from me, from
high to low like this. And I woke up, opened my eyes in my bed, and I was dreaming, but now physically
in my bed. Jumping, I landed like I was dropped from the ceiling. You know? But, the interesting thing is I
was all wet. Like I just took a shower with all my clothes on. That was interesting.

Sean: Salt water?

Adrian: Yes. I was just soaked, full of water.

Sean: Did you see when this happened? The incident, in the future?

Adrian: No.

Sean: Any idea as to when? Did you manage to look at a newspaper or anything while you were there?

Adrian: No.

Sean: Did Miami Beach look like it looks now?

Adrian: Yea, yea. It looked normal, not like the Jetsons or something like that.

Sean: But you had this vision when you were 16. That was 25 years ago. Before any of this was here.

Adrian: Yes. So maybe the time is approaching. I never say things because things are changing constantly
in the future, so the path that is leading energies back and forth isn't fixed. If I say things and they don't
happen people will say I am a liar. I have been in the future several times in the same place at the same
time and it has been different every time.

Sean: What causes that tidal wave?

Adrian: A meteor that is going to hit the Caribbean.

Sean: But, you don't have any idea as to when?

Adrian: No. And, if I do I won't say a date here, like I said it, just in case things change, I will look bad. It
is pretty near. It is somewhere between '97, '98 or 2012, I believe, somewhere around there.

Sean: That gives you a lot of breathing room.

Adrian: Yeah. [Laughs]

Sean: Have you ever heard anything about Atlantis rising up? Because I've seen that in my own visions
and meditations that Atlantis starts to rise directly off the coast, which begins to inundate Florida.

Adrian: I thought that could happen. Cause I saw something like that, too. And, uh, things just rising up,
and actually people are moving there to live.

Sean: After Florida goes down into the ocean?

Adrian: That's right.

Sean: Did they ever show you any big earthquakes in the future? Los Angeles, San Francisco?

Adrian: Large earthquakes in Florida, which will be very strange, because that has never happened.

Sean: Do you know what area in Florida?

Adrian: The lower area.

Sean: The lower areas of Florida, big earthquakes? Are these going to be right before the tidal wave?

Adrian: I think so. Because that's another thing let's talk about over there in the hotel, calmly. Another
experience that I saw.

Sean: How many times have you traveled in the future?

Adrian: That I can remember. Solidly, at least three, at least, that I can remember. Three good ones that I
can remember.

Sean: Why did the Pleiadians from Taygeta dump Billy Meyer? Stop his contacts.

Adrian: In a way, Billy Meier was an experiment. He represented the whole human race. However he
would react, they considered that the whole reaction of the human race.

But, the thing is that his emotions started manifesting. His ego. The human passions that followed. Yes?
That got in the way. The same thing happened to people around him. That's even more trouble...jealousy,
fighting... to Meier, and people saying 'I'm going to be his secretary!', 'No I'm his secretary!', 'No I'm in
charge!' All that crap was going on.

Sean: Did it do something to his aura?

Adrian: Of course, this altered his auric field, all that negativity that was brought in, when all of the
experiences and all the power was given to him, it brings out all these negativities from inside to outside. It
penetrates the auric field, and you become very sensitive to negative energies from negative ET's, from
negative astral beings, and from government people. They all at the same time got right on top of him. And
so everybody got out of whack. They lost their harmony, they lost it. You know?

So, that actually started the interference, with the Pleiadians, it started bothering their minds. Billy had like
a...bad smell...a psychic stench. Whenever the Pleiadians start coming around these people, their energies
followed them. The Pleiadians are very sensitive to that, see. That's why they don't come around certain
people or certain areas.

So, they decided to stop the whole thing, because the negativity was so strong, and the negative influence
was so strong. So, they [Meier's followers] decided to keep the pieces for themselves there in the group.
They didn't do the right thing of disseminating the information properly worldwide. They never did that.
They are not doing it still now, at this time, see?

So the Pleiadians decided to just leave. Each one of the Pleiadians told him, by different contacts, and
especially Ptaah, told him that this was the end, and that the next contacts will come from America. And
here you are with me. I am it now.

Sean: Which must have made Meier very angry. Because he hated Americans, right?

Adrian: Yes. Meier was always asking the Pleiadians why it has to be in America for the next contact.
They told him no because they couldn't tell him the true story, you know? Or what's happening now with
my case, they couldn't tell him. And they never did. But, now he finds out this year for the first time. More
in detail. What's going on.

So that was back around in the early 80's? And how many years have passed since the 80's? Fifteen,
sixteen years? Well that's about the same time they told him they would come again. That more contacts
with them would be made public. Some fifteen or twenty years.

Sean: Did Semjase [the name of the female Pleiadian in the Meier case] really have some kind of
accident? Because Meier claims she hit her head and was almost killed, and that that's why the contacts
stopped.

Adrian: No, not really. That didn't happen. She is very well. There's no problem with her. She is alive and
well...no accident.

Sean: You have had two contacts so far with Semjase. One in the physical and one in the astral plane. In
fact that was Semjase's ship in the famous 'Car Chase' video you took on the MIAMI CONTACTS tape.
She has been brought in by the beings from Alcyone because of her experience with earth contact and
interaction. Are her contacts with you are going to start up in earnest, when Billy finally dies?

Adrian: Yes, you can say that. Because, uh, like I said, Semjase is one of the original members of the
whole project and if it starts just like that, I mean that's bad for her own evolution. You know? So, she
won't be satisfied, fully developed soulfully, or satisfied, so she actually has to finish this out with Billy in
order to join my team, you see, which is different.

Billy is probably going to die suddenly very soon. This will allow Semjase to deal with the karma she has
built up with him once and for all in the astral. She feels as if she failed with him. She needs to balance that
out before she starts again with anyone else.

So, we are all going to work, when that happens, and it is going to get even stronger. And especially when I
finish my own training, my own karmic cycle it may come together at the same time. You know those
things you never think of, they have a way of attracting each other. And that's when it really gets stronger.
When there is more powerful evidence. And by that time also, things have changed in the karma of the
world, and things will be softer so that we can put out more stuff, also in the same time. So a lot of things
will be combining.

Sean: What do you say? Do you want to go out somewhere and see a ship?

Adrian: Yeah. I wouldn't mind.

Sean: Want to go tonight? Just me and you and Claudina? Can I bring them down?

Adrian: [Laughs] Yes.

Sean: What do you say Claudina?

Adrian: On top of the ship, or whatever, did you know that?

Claudina: Yeah!

Adrian: When a serious question is asked, I always say they are calling the shots. They are in charge. If it
is meant to be, they'll put it in everybody's mind.

Sean: Have you ever managed to call them, put out a telepathic call, and have them appear?

Adrian: Oh, yes. And it was because it was time, for certain people to see them, to have the experience. It
has happened. Miliagros was one of the people I've done that with. And some of the people that used to be
part of my group, here in Miami.

Sometimes its just me and somebody else, and sometimes in groups, and they have actually done it, but if
they did it, it was because of some very strong reason, some very good reason, other wise I don't bother.
Or even if they wanted to, if the ambiance is wrong, or the energies are wrong, I can't do it. Whether they
might want to, I can't. But apparently everything was perfect in those circumstances. For instance, with my
lover and some other friends. Everything joins the energy, the people deserve it, it was everything and it
was the perfect combination.

Sean: Have you been inside these bases on the moon?

Adrian: No.

Sean: How do you know what they look like, and how do you know what the interiors look like?

Adrian: I see it. I've seen it.

Sean: They don't show you on the ship what the inside of these bases look like? They don't show you on
a monitor or anything?

Adrian: Not that I remember. They have told me things, just in conversations. In conversations, what they
have been doing. Like a spy. Like somebody talking to a spy, and telling them a little bit 'we are doing this,
and then look at that.' In conversation. And I see it in my mind sometimes. I think I just saw the outside
like an airport, and that's it. I don't remember anything else. I don't remember seeing anything about it.

Sean: Have they ever taken you to Mars or the moon?

Adrian: Yes. Over the planet. Never inside, just over the surface.

Sean: What are the Mother Ships like? The interior of the mother ships?

Adrian: There are parts that are look like a mall, like a giant playground, you know? But gigantic. The big
ones look like a park. We have got to go, all of us.

Sean: Now you said that one of the original compounds where many human mutations and variations were
genetically engineered long ago, was close to here somewhere?

Adrian: And when they created the compound.... should I tell you about it now? There's another one that
I know. All the same.

Sean: Something about a compound in Florida. In Ocala Florida. Where there was an original laboratory
that they did things with.

Adrian: Like we are part of the original experiment.

Sean: When you say they, who are they?

Adrian: The Pleiadians, the Sirians, Lyrans, were the groups that were working. And then the Sirians were
working under.....let's call them the tall blondes, they were living in the place. The Sirians were in charge
of a lot of the genetic experiments under the tutelage of the Lyrans . And then they got the opportunity to
get back at the tall blondes. They saw the opportunity when they saw the experiments in the compound.
They thought, 'Let them create the beings, and we are going to control them.' Because there weren't so
many people in those days, and they were going to build the slave races, and a race where they can be
lords later, when they expire, they can actually also be incarnated in those bodies.

That's why they had those, like a chicken farm, or something like that. The Pleiadians said, 'OK let them
build that up, but we will come and ruin the experiment, subtly without anyone knowing.' And that's that.
Because these people in the compound, when they started building the bodies, they had them stupid,
retarded, they wouldn't let them make any decisions or do anything, they just gave them everything. You
see? And, uh, so they said, they were going to teach them, teach them how to do all the jobs and also all
the sexual stuff, and all that.

And then, what it looks like inside, I never forgot. So they started teaching man different things. They
taught them how to have sex between themselves, and the other guys found out. Then they threw
everybody out.

Sean: Which everybody?

Adrian: Long ago the Lyrans took over the Sirian Empire. Because the Lyrans had more power the Sirians
just had to keep their mouths shut hoping to someday get revenge. So by screwing up the entire experiment
of the Human Race for the Lyrans, this is how the Sirians got their revenge. Because the Lyrans wanted to
keep the people in the compound stupid.

Sean: Why did they genetically engineer mankind in the first place?

Adrian: To take over the bodies, as I said. Because one day their bodies aren't going to work any more,
the machine is going to run down, so they say, 'I need a new body to incarnate', and they are going to have
a compound, like a chicken farm and they are going to use their chickens from there.

Sean: You were going to tell us. You had two other experiences. Time travel experiences.

Adrian: Yes.

Sean: You told us about the other one the other night, where you were taken and you saw the tidal wave
hit Miami. You said you had two other really good ones.

Adrian: Um, which one shall I start? OK.

Sean: You told me about going to Miami and the 15 people on one side.

Adrian: After that one, that was the first time. The second experience I am around the Florida Keys, that
area. Apparently the first one, the meteor strike, hadn't happened yet or didn't happen. Cause I was around
the Keys. The problem wasn't starting there this time. It seemed to start in South America, because I was
in the Keys looking toward the south, and from over the ocean you could feel this dark stuff coming out,
rising, like those um, how do you call it, ash....?

Sean: Ash rising out of the ocean?

Adrian: From the other side. From the horizon. And then I heard like the sounds of bombs, loud bombs
coming from that direction. I said, 'what the heck is that? What could be happening over there that's so big
that could be causing these noises and that thing that looks like smoke or ash rising, from all the way over
there, that I can't see any land, only water.'

Then the floor started moving and I looked down, and I said 'Oh shit!' These are the volcanoes or
something erupting over there. And then all of a sudden I look up, and I see, I don't know how this ties in,
I have to think about it real, real, good.

Anyway, all of a sudden I see the Sun racing like this across the sky and I say, 'look at that, how it is
racing, the Sun, but wait a minute, the Sun doesn't move, it is us, we are the ones that are turning around
like that so quickly.'

Then all of a sudden, after I said that, I saw literally millions saucers coming down! Just the thing that
caught my attention is that none of them touched the floor or landed on the ground. They just hovered at
about 20 feet only. And they started beaming people up.

But it was curious. They had like a pink light, like you shine from a lantern, and some people were beamed
and some weren't. I said that's curious, I wonder why that is. Then all of a sudden, in my mind, as I was
watching that, I was also being told telepathically that yes, those are the on-board computers working with
the vibrations according to the people. They are hooked up to beam up certain vibrations of certain people.
People that are good with a lot of love. That is cosmic, with an on-board computer. The ship is rigged. It
can take only up only those people. But, other people, it won't work. And I say, 'well, why, why does the
computer have it hooked up like that?' They say, 'Ah, because in a time of such a strong crisis and
emotion, maybe the pilot might want to save some people, but really can't be part of that rescue.' So the
computer is going to take care of that, just beam some people up. Isn't that interesting?

Sean: And then, you saw this in a dream or you were taken there, to a period in the future? Is this like
astral traveling? Or a dream or vision that you had?

Adrian: That one, well it seems like a dream, but it isn't a dream. It is real. I'm really there looking at
them. It is another extreme, a physical extreme, but it looks astral like in a dream. But it is not. Because
there is no symbology or nothing weird going on. It is really, they are alive, everything how it should be. It
is physical. It was a long time ago. When it happened like the first time, when it happened like a vision.

Sean: What year about?

Adrian: It was like the other one. About fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, approximately the same age
that I told you already. It was on the second day. I had one and then the second one right after that. That I
remember. Two days consecutive. Thinking about it now is probably the same; I was taken the same way
as from the first. Beamed and put in the future like that. And then I saw the ships taking everybody and
then it took off, and I can't remember anything else. That was like an exodus. I do remember people
driving down on top of Aruba and the water rising, people on top of the trees, and the warm feeling, I felt
bad, I remember I felt sorry for them with the water coming, and the terrible feeling that I saw, and then,
that's the only thing that I can remember.

Sean: Weren't you on the ship when they took you into the future, and then they showed you things in the
future on the screen?

Adrian: There was one like that. I've got to remember about that one. OK?

Sean: Also, can you relate your meditation, is it an easy meditation?

Adrian: Easy?

Sean: Could you explain it to us?

Adrian: Sure. All you have to do is sit or lie down very comfortable; somewhere where there is no noise,
no distractions. Close your eyes, look up to stimulate the third eye, that gland right in the center of the
forehead, the pineal gland at the center of the brain. Place your feet are full on the floor, and you focus.
The pineal gland is the connection. That links your mind to the soul force.

You must go into the meditation with perfect, positive feelings of harmony. It will bring a comfortable,
complete feeling of love, peace, joy and happiness.... full of wisdom, full of power, full of freedom,
everything in you realizes all of these things that you are. When you concentrate and focus on this point,
with this understanding, you become one with all things for a while. For a while just do that, for a couple
of minutes, until you see something. By that time you start controlling all your thoughts. And when you
have your blank screen, at this point then start taking deep breaths, very slow, very deep. Fill yourself with
that light and power of all that you know that you are. Imagine that you are breathing the life and light in
and out. In through the nostrils, and out through the mouth. Breathe out everything negative that doesn't
belong to you.

That helps raise your level in many ways. It not only raises the cosmic level and the ambiance around you,
but you go deeper, into yourself. All the time your focus is here, [the center of the forehead] you take the
breath. And now, by this time, you are aware that you are called your into own soul to manifest outside,
you have called your cosmic master teachers, that together you combine the great experience that you have
reserved according to your highest cosmic intelligence at the moment.

Whatever it is for you now, that's what is going to happen. But you must call for these teachers over the
course of the meditation otherwise sometimes they don't interfere. Even your own higher soul doesn't
interfere, doesn't manifest. So now you've done that, that's when you start now chanting. It is like
chanting. You begin to chant your personal secret word, the secret word is that word that I told you that is
your own soul vibration sound, like you get it, through a meditation such as this one, or with a dream state,
usually by yourself, before you go to sleep, you just talk to yourself, and you tell yourself that you are
going to receive the sound of your own soul. And it usually comes in two or three sessions.

Sean: Like Om or Aum?

Adrian: Something like that. The soul will tell you. You will see it in a dream. For instance, you fall asleep,
you start dreaming, and they will show up maybe in like something that hangs in a frame, like a picture.
That you have to have a path, really quickly, and ride it, and once they give it to you, if you don't write it
down, you will lose it. While you are doing you have to kind of hypnotize yourself into remember the
name and the sound. And you are going to tell your self that as soon as you get it, you are going to wake
up and write it down. And believe me, it was not the first or the third, or the week later or sometime in the
future you are going to receive it. This is very important and it is worth all of the trouble. Because it is a
sound that you are going to use for all this lifetime. The sound may even change later on, when your soul
goes to another level, it receives another sound... but that's the level that they have to work with. The old
name doesn't work any more. It is very interesting. That's how it works. Anyway, you start chanting your
name, whatever it is. Let's say it is Om.....

Sean: Is that what you use?

Adrian: Sometimes I use it. But I have my own private name. Everybody has their own private name and
you shouldn't say it to anybody else. You say, ooooooom, carry the last syllable, carry it so you don't
breath anymore. There are people who say om, like this, ooooooommmmmm, and then cut it off. That's
all contrary to what you are really trying to do because the vibration is cut. There is no vibration there;
there is no force there. It stops.

Editor's Note: We were looking through some of Adrian's photographs. Hundreds of UFOs, most in
flight, many landed on the ground and many taken in the air by Adrian from out the porthole of one
craft filming another. There was a 'Time Photo' taken of Jesus and four of his disciples. There were
photos of dozens of landed craft at the main Pleiadian base in South America. One of the most
startling photos showed a full view of a ship hovering about 6 feet off the ground, and a half view of
another ship, with his girlfriend Claudina actually climbing up a ladder to get into the craft.

Also a stunning picture of four craft, one either taking off or landing, the other three, parked on a hill
perched atop large archways, with stairs down either side. They were all of a different design, and
there was a man under one with what appeared to be some kind of tool, while another man was
walking down the hill. Both men had very long legs and, relative to the craft, appeared to be well over
7 feet tall. Adrian then related a particularly unusual adventure.]

Adrian: On one occasion I was on the ship and we collected a number of unique people while they were
sleeping. People that will be very important in the future. They find these people with the computers on the
ships. They have the registration of their current and all their past lifetimes, downloaded from what is
sometimes called the Akashic records. We find them through the fingerprints of the auric seal. With the
record of their vibrations we can find them anywhere in all time periods. It is very complex. That's as far
as I can explain.

That day I decided to go through time and get a whole bunch of at least a dozen of my past reincarnations,
and a many other people that would be important. These are sometimes what are called abductions. I got
all these people together and I took them to one of the planets. It was like a university. I sat them all down
like in a schoolroom and I started giving a class. And it's all me.....along with all kinds of other people.
Women, men, and kids, whatever. When that finished, I got them in the ship again, and dropped them off
back home in their own times. I allowed some of them to remember consciously and some only
sub-consciously. So that helped them in their lifetimes and that helped me in my lifetimes.

Sean: And that helped you as well.

Adrian: Yes. I was having many strong problems in this life, so that allowed me great perspective. It's just
getting a little light to, you know....you may have a certain lifetime that becomes a teacher with a
comfortable grade. It is your job to go and look for your lifetimes either through meditation, or dream
states, or physical means and give them a hand. And that's what I did.

Sean: That is what my Tibetan teachers taught me when I lived in the monastery in Nepal. I have found
that sometimes we get great advice, and see what we think are guardian angels, only to discover that was
myself, coming back to help from the future.

Adrian: Yes, exactly. You are very powerful at traveling through time. You are like me; you slip back and
forth between lives in the time stream. It sometime gets very confusing.

Sean: Tell me about it!

[Editor's Note: Later on, back at the hotel, we gathered together to talk business about the upcoming
TV special and to have Adrian lead us in a meditation. In the group were Larry Germain, my
co-executive producer on the TV show, and friend since collage, Randy and Armanda Winters and
Milagros, an older Cuban woman with great psychic power, insight and ability. She has seen the ships
many times, but has never gone on the craft.

[Adrian starts off leading the meditation.}

Adrian: Focus 1 inch, above the eyebrow and concentrate towards the back in the middle of the brain.
Towards the pineal organ, the seat of the soul. Concentrate on your life force, your soul, who you really
are. With a conscious deep understanding of who you really are, as are all-powerful, all wise, all free. You
are the eternal life force. You are God that has been created in principal on life force, of the universal
creation. You are all perfect, positive, harmony, freeing you, comfortable, full of love, peace, joy and
happiness. You are a complete soul. Let's meditate on life.

Knowing that you always were this life force and you always will be. In the greatest characteristics of the
soul that was deep and beautiful sided and there is where we are going to go, there is where we always see
that quietness, that stillness, that inner peace of silence. Keep concentrating on your third eye.

Now at your own discretion, call out for your soul to manifest and together call out for your inner master
teachers that they may come and join as one with your soul as they may determine that this experience that
it is for you at this time according to your highest cosmic intelligence in the now. Saying the AUM chant
for at least a dozen times and then we will remain in the silence and there we will receive.

We shall do the ohm in a rolling way, without stopping, once you start, I hear my voice later on when I
stop, all of you will stop also. Keep the concentration on the third eye all through the meditation. It is the
understanding of who you are when whatever you think manifests. And if we are thinking on our souls,
they shall manifest. And all its characteristics and everything Ooooooohhhhhhhmmmmmm,
oooooohhhhmmmm,

[Ed. Note: After we come out of the meditation Milagros has a number of psychic insights.]

Milagros: (Speaking in Spanish)

Adrian: She says, we all knew each other in that era when the Knights of Templar went to war. We were
all Knights crusading for the truth. Sean and Larry especially.

Milagros: And that's why I feel like I know him [Sean] myself.

Adrian: You two have to compete. [Sean and Larry] 'My horse is prettier.' But, it is just fooling around.
You [Sean] had a white one. You [Larry] had one with spots. So, we can fool around with each other. It is
a true gift your [Sean] sense of humor. We are all reuniting again. That is interesting.

Milagros: My brother [her guide] is coming from the center of the universe. I tried to bring the diamonds
of light down on him. It will be all unified in one mind. That it is, in my mind, what I want him to be. The
energy of it needs to be more focused, in the room, and it works like that. I don't know why they say that.
There is too much discord all around us....

Adrian: That's because we are in a hotel room, with people staying all around us.

Milagros: I've got this feeling. Something that is like what I heard. Sometimes I hear from my left ear a
sharp tone, like a bell. This is already in process. This show you are doing, the message is very important:
that everybody is doing the wrong thing and that they need to change. It is going to be a good product to
give to these people. But, you have to be very careful, who writes it.... there's going to be one person that's
going to be very, sensitive to the writing to whatever the subjects are. It is like it is very important to
recheck and be attentive to whatever is written for the notes and the script. Not too ET or too religious, but
very straight forward. So what the Guides were telling me, "Put on TV what you have seen and heard!"

Adrian: It's always people shouting saying things, and then somebody comes and says it is not correct. It's
always a panel and that kind of shit. No, that's not the kind of thing we need to do. 'You are the master,
take it or leave it!' That kind of presentation.

Milagros: It's gonna come out, and it's gonna come out good. And everybody's gonna earn a lot of
money. For you, [Sean] I see you working a lot. Whew! So much work. Many people working under you
in movies and TV, being the big boss. [To Larry] Do you have a girlfriend, right now? Is she pregnant? I
see a little baby, take care, because every time I see that it happens.

Adrian: She never fails, man. Now we are gonna really have to smoke some cigars, No?

Larry: [Shocked.] We actually were trying this weekend.

Milagros: OK. Keep on it. If you want a baby, it will come.

Adrian: Oh boy, look at that. That's pretty clear.

Sean: From November 23rd to December 28th there is going to be a door, that's gonna open. That's when
the vibrations are going to begin to change, and that's when things need to be realigned. Those dates are
very important this year.

Adrian: I agree!

Sean: It will occur right after Thanksgiving till December 28th.

Larry: We have to be done soon to be aired by then?

Sean: We could even air it Thanksgiving weekend. If we can air it between November 23rd to December
28th it will be amazing. But that door is opening from now, '96 through 2003. And whoever doesn't get in
to that door, is going to be left behind.

Another thing, too. I keep getting these two women dancing around in my head, now. There is a blonde
one and a brunette. During the meditation a window opened. The two women were teasing, pushing each
other aside saying, "Let me see! No Let me see!" The blonde was dressed in what looked like a goldish
burnt orange tight body suit, with what looked like a gold ring around the neck. She went and changed her
suit, and she came back wearing something white that was sort of big shouldered. It came diagonally across
the breast, like a uniform, it buttoned here. She was now wearing the same outfit as the brunette.

The screen widened and I could see both of them full view, standing inside a ship. The blonde turned and
said 'It is time!', and she pressed what looked like a diamond on a control panel that looks like a switch.
She touched the diamond and it lit up. Then I saw the under belly of a ship, but the ship opened and it
became very, very black. Like a camera lens. Then there was like a tornado, like a whirlwind, and it
sucked all of us up into it, and the bottom part of the ship looked like an eye.

Then the blonde one was named Mooka (SEE DRAWING AT RIGHT) The brunette seemed to be named
Ish Tiara or Ick Tiara. She's not the same as the blonde. They are similar, but she comes from another
race, like she was brought in just to deal with me.....

Adrian: Beautiful...This is great confirmation!

Sean: Wait! [Looking up] I can see the window again, with the two women.....

Adrian: That's probably right outside, they are looking in at you through the monitor.

Sean: Let's hope.

Adrian: That's a good confirmation.

Sean: Long blonde hair. What do you think?

Adrian: She has beautiful eyes? Cat eyes?

Sean: Yes! I'm also getting the same feeling too, that I had for three days after that lunch that we had at
Acapulco's. You know, up in Burbank, that day. When we first seriously started to sit down and talk to
Randy about your contacts and bringing out your case....

Larry: Right. You told me about that.....

Sean: [Looking up. Yelling.] WHAT! What do you want? WHAT!

Owww! I'm getting that feeling right now! Right now my whole brain is being down loaded from right here.
It feels like my whole head is being sucked up! Images and flashes and childhood, and past lives.... future
stuff. ARRRGH! QUIT IT!! STOP IT!

Milagros: [Translated from Spanish] He's too sensitive!! They're going to put the 'Hat' on him! Mother
help him!

Editor's Note: I could clearly see these two women in front of some kind of control panel. They went
from guiless and childlike, to cold and clinical, like doctors performing an operation. They pressed
another diamond button and this time Ick Tiara said, 'It is time!'

I saw a clear, brilliant tube come through the curtained window of the hotel room, and it attached
itself with the impact of a bullet to my forehead! I then felt something else attach to the base of my
skull! The whole left side of my body went limp and numb, like I was having a heart attack. I began to
quiver and shake violently.

Larry: [Panicked] Are you alright? [Looking in Sean's face] Oh my God! His left eye has gone milky
white! And...and....there's a white light coming out the back of his head. [Larry puts his hand on the back
of Sean's head.] Maybe we should call a doctor.....This is really freaky.

Miligros gets on the bed behind me sitting in the chair, while Adrian stands in front of me. They were
both trying to work the energy coming into the room, but I don't think either of them knew anymore
than I did what was happening!

Suddenly, I screamed as it felt like two red-hot daggers were plunged into both my eyes, and my body
continued to badly spasm. I felt sick to my stomach as the bile worked its way up my throat.

Then, a tangible, physical pressure began to be applied to my skull. It felt as if a circular vise grip had
been applied to my cranium, and someone was twisting it tighter and tighter. Like someone trying to
crush an egg in his or her fist. The pressure on my head was excruciating.

It felt as though my entire life was being downloaded and dumped into some huge data base. I have
spent much of my life collecting information and now that information was being forcibly sucked out
of me all at once! The past, present and future began to run together all at once! Being turned to
liquid and poured into the sparkling stream of time. It was beautiful and terrifying all at once!!

Brilliant flashes of my past and future lives, earth history, gleaming cities, great battles, massive
destruction, earthquakes, hurricanes, crashing meteors, beams of light in space, other planets,
thousands of creatures and beings, Good, Great and Noble...evil, craven and perverse...whole galaxies
and universes within universes. All of God was within me, and all of the Multi-verses were within
him, and he was not stretched or cramped in either place. I know everything and nothing all at once!
[ALL IS ONE ALL IS ONE ALL IS ONE.....but all of it was being pulled out. I felt traumas, conflicts,
pain, betrayal and loneliness pour out of me, but also be strangely healed, as my left side continued to
go tingly and numb with paralysis.

Milagros and Adrian worked frantically trying to regulate the energy coming in and leaving me. I
began to sob from the pain and overwhelming nature of what was happening.

Suddenly I saw the kind, benevolent, loving, concerned face of Master Rinpoche Lopsang T'undun,
the High Lama from my monastery T'ang Boyche high in the Himalayas in Nepal.

He looked at me closely, tilting his head as he scrutinized me in my agony.

Then I saw him on the bridge of the ship, surrounded by a soft reddish golden
glow. He stood behind the two women at the console with his hands clasped
together. He waited there for what seemed like an eternity, looking calmly but
inquisitively over the women's shoulders at what they were doing.

"MAKE....THEM....S-S-STOPPP!"I screamed.

Master Rinpoche raised his right hand with the index and middle finger pointing
upward, and the other fingers hanging limply, in a casual gesture but one of immense power.

The two women turned, somewhat startled, but then bowed differentially.

"Please. That is enough," he said.

The women nodded, pressed a sequence of switches, and the image in my mind vanished.

My breathing slowed. My heart began to beat more regularly. I had lost all feeling in my left side. I
staggered into the bathroom and vomited my guts out.

As I sat on the floor, wiping my face, the cool kiss of the porcelain bathtub against my back, Miliagros
knocked softly and came in.

Milagros: Are you Ok?

Sean: Yeah, yeah...I'll be fine....

Milagros: Oh, man. They did you good! They put the 'Hat' on you! I hate that 'Hat'! That's why I go with
Adrian to see the ships for many years, but I will never go on them....

Sean: Why not?

Milagros: [Laughs] Oh no! You should ask? And wind up like you? Madre! They are not coming
anywhere near me with that 'Hat' thing! No Gracias!

I staggered back into the room, getting some feeling back in my left side, but feeling empty and
drained.

Adrian: [Smiling] They are activating you! You are going to get closer to the ET's my friend, much closer
than you ever imagined. Closer than ever before. They are going to start giving you things that are
incredible. People will start opening up to you. Amazing things are going to start to happen. So get ready
my friend! You are in for the ride of your life!